How to bld?

[neroflux]

what  I understand is you cancel out the orientation step by using set-up moves , making it into a known perm such as A or U perm then undo set-up. Am I right ? Thats cool

not just setup moves lar, take ur angefish oll and h shape oll for example.

[bonoan1027]

what  I understand is you cancel out the orientation step by using set-up moves , making it into a known perm such as A or U perm then undo set-up. Am I right ? Thats cool

3 cycle corners without orientation would be hard =)) I just limit orientationless 3 cycle to edges.

[blah]

I always thought that was trivial -.-"

If the M edge is misoriented, do [M]. If the L/R edges are misoriented, do [R/L][F/B]. [X] = X or X' where appropriate.

But this becomes completely retarded after a while because you realize there are much nicer algs to use. Yikai, post them here if you read this. I can't remember what I taught you already -.-" I've been dead for a looooong time.

[cubing_is_part_of_my_life]

hey joshua. when u know m2 doesnt mean u mastered it. you mastered you can go about 50 seconds. if u cant, its not mastered.

[neroflux]

While watching some of Yikai's BLD vids, I was like.. " Okay, I give up on BLD" until almost everyone got DNF's. I felt bad for all those who worked hard for that event.
BLD is not a guarantee event.

My BLD method is COCP 3 cycle corners and 3 cycle edges but without orientation... this is the TuRbo method. 3 cycle edges without orientation, for me, can even surpass the efficiency of M2 as long as you can execute your set up moves quick and by heart.

here.. try this
Setup: M' R2 U' R' U' R U R U R U' R M

others would solve this by orienting both UF and UL... but here's how I do it.
my buffer is UR. UR has to go to LU and LU has to go to FU and FU has to go UR.
what you want to do is set up the edges in a way that you can cycle them with a U perm with their correct orientation.

Solution: M' R' U R' U' R' U' R' U R U R2 M

This method has tons of potential !

this is nearly a month ago but solution: M U' M' U2 M U' M'

[bonoan1027]

While watching some of Yikai's BLD vids, I was like.. " Okay, I give up on BLD" until almost everyone got DNF's. I felt bad for all those who worked hard for that event.
BLD is not a guarantee event.

My BLD method is COCP 3 cycle corners and 3 cycle edges but without orientation... this is the TuRbo method. 3 cycle edges without orientation, for me, can even surpass the efficiency of M2 as long as you can execute your set up moves quick and by heart.

here.. try this
Setup: M' R2 U' R' U' R U R U R U' R M

others would solve this by orienting both UF and UL... but here's how I do it.
my buffer is UR. UR has to go to LU and LU has to go to FU and FU has to go UR.
what you want to do is set up the edges in a way that you can cycle them with a U perm with their correct orientation.

Solution: M' R' U R' U' R' U' R' U R U R2 M

This method has tons of potential !

this is nearly a month ago but solution: M U' M' U2 M U' M'

I use that but I only did the longer one to show the concept of my method.

[Howardw]

Can anyone here precisely tell me how to memorise for bld? I know how to do the old pochman but I don't know how to memorise. Thats the only prob! Help me!

[hiicube]

Can anyone here precisely tell me how to memorise for bld? I know how to do the old pochman but I don't know how to memorise. Thats the only prob! Help me!

well.. there is no actual "way" to memorise.. just a lot of practice.. sure can:D

[Howardw]

Can anyone here precisely tell me how to memorise for bld? I know how to do the old pochman but I don't know how to memorise. Thats the only prob! Help me!

well.. there is no actual "way" to memorise.. just a lot of practice.. sure can:D

WOW. Thanks for the advice. I really helped me haha! But do you just memo where the pieces go or do you have a system?

[Jt]

Can anyone here precisely tell me how to memorise for bld? I know how to do the old pochman but I don't know how to memorise. Thats the only prob! Help me!

well.. there is no actual "way" to memorise.. just a lot of practice.. sure can:D

WOW. Thanks for the advice. I really helped me haha! But do you just memo where the pieces go or do you have a system?

You memo a string of numbers.

Take the following example for 3op corners:

142365789

The corner piece in position goes to position 4, and the corner in position 4 goes to 2 etc, and the one in position 9 will end up in position 1. Something like that.

Basically that string means to
set up an A perm for corners 1,4,2
A perm 1,3,6
A perm 1,5,7
A perm 1,8,9

Then there's parity, where you are unable to solve all corners with just 3 cycles, but that's not really relevant here.

Of course numbers may not be the best way to remember things, some use alphabets and some have plain weird names for pieces.

But yeah that's for 3OP, hopefully this mediocre explanation gave you some insight on how to memo for your Old Pochmann method.

[Howardw]

Can anyone here precisely tell me how to memorise for bld? I know how to do the old pochman but I don't know how to memorise. Thats the only prob! Help me!

well.. there is no actual "way" to memorise.. just a lot of practice.. sure can:D

WOW. Thanks for the advice. I really helped me haha! But do you just memo where the pieces go or do you have a system?

You memo a string of numbers.

Take the following example for 3op corners:

142365789

The corner piece in position goes to position 4, and the corner in position 4 goes to 2 etc, and the one in position 9 will end up in position 1. Something like that.

Basically that string means to
set up an A perm for corners 1,4,2
A perm 1,3,6
A perm 1,5,7
A perm 1,8,9

Then there's parity, where you are unable to solve all corners with just 3 cycles, but that's not really relevant here.

Of course numbers may not be the best way to remember things, some use alphabets and some have plain weird names for pieces.

But yeah that's for 3OP, hopefully this mediocre explanation gave you some insight on how to memo for your Old Pochmann method.

So can you consistently bld? I think bld is too complicated for me and I will never do it. I've never had a successful solve to date.

[Jt]

So can you consistently bld? I think bld is too complicated for me and I will never do it. I've never had a successful solve to date.

Nah, I have short term memory. I am only able to do BLD solves if I have say, a piece of paper with the strings on them.

[Howardw]

So can you consistently bld? I think bld is too complicated for me and I will never do it. I've never had a successful solve to date.

Nah, I have short term memory. I am only able to do BLD solves if I have say, a piece of paper with the strings on them.

Thanks for all the help jt! haha

[bensonliang]

Can anyone here precisely tell me how to memorise for bld? I know how to do the old pochman but I don't know how to memorise. Thats the only prob! Help me!

well.. there is no actual "way" to memorise.. just a lot of practice.. sure can:D

WOW. Thanks for the advice. I really helped me haha! But do you just memo where the pieces go or do you have a system?

You memo a string of numbers.

Take the following example for 3op corners:

142365789

The corner piece in position goes to position 4, and the corner in position 4 goes to 2 etc, and the one in position 9 will end up in position 1. Something like that.

Basically that string means to
set up an A perm for corners 1,4,2
A perm 1,3,6
A perm 1,5,7
A perm 1,8,9

Then there's parity, where you are unable to solve all corners with just 3 cycles, but that's not really relevant here.

Of course numbers may not be the best way to remember things, some use alphabets and some have plain weird names for pieces.

But yeah that's for 3OP, hopefully this mediocre explanation gave you some insight on how to memo for your Old Pochmann method.

So can you consistently bld? I think bld is too complicated for me and I will never do it. I've never had a successful solve to date.

Memorizing is all about practice. I also used to not be able to do bld solves. I only managed to do it very recently. Maybe start by memorizing 6 edges first, then as you improve, gradually increase more until you can solve the whole cube. I don't know, but that's how I used to practice.

[Jt]

Aiseh advice from the bld pro benson ;o M2R2 user siah, own me, who can't even bld

bad la you, dao my sms T_T make me bored at home whole day